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How many suicides are needed before we get it....Ozempic, psychotropics SSRI’s, Benzo’s, C19 Vaccines, the list is endless GMO food, cancer therapies, environmental toxins

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No one ever went broke selling weight-loss gimmicks to fat Americans.

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Americans eat posion food their government provides

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Or dental products to Europeans

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I like your golf ball mark, I thought it was mine!

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BIG PHARMA IS EVIL AND PURE POISON.

NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN AND GO BACK TO BASICS WITH HEALTH CARE

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People lose weight because it causes stomach paralysis. Who allowed this to go to the market? I’m so tired of there being zero accountability when “medicine” causes more harm than good. Everyone (from the scientists, to the manufacturers, to the regulators, to the prescribers), EVERYONE involved in the process needs to be stripped of credibility, fined, and jailed. No immunity. No more trust.

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Again, it does not cause stomach paralysis. If it did, and it was really harming people en masse, you would have heard about it before this. Please save the righteous indignation for stuff that actually deserves it.

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There are a lot of things that are hidden from the public. The belief that it mustn’t be true because “you would have heard of it” is concerning. Are you familiar with the “hear this well” campaign that happened on YouTube and Facebook? A mainstream news anchor told millions of people “Hear this well, vaccines don’t cause autism.” Well many parents and caregivers have video evidence of their children before and after vaccinations. I could see the “light go out” of little babies eyes after being vaccinated. Do you know what YT and FB did? They removed every single one of the videos. Do you know what happens to anyone with a vaccine injury? They’re gaslit. It’s very naive of you to think what you think. I’m also concerned that you wouldn’t want people to be held accountable when they maim and kill others who trusted them.

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🔥🔥🔥

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I’m not sure if it was gastroparesis, but a very good friend of mine was bedridden, her stomach was so messed up, just being on semiglutide for 3-4 weeks. I wouldn’t touch it. Clean keto keeps me where I want to be weight wise.

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It’s not a cure-all, and people can react badly to it. I think semaglutide is terrible, but everyone is different. I know many who have used it to make progress towards cleaner eating and living goals, and it works wonders. Clean keto works for you, but I find keto to be miserable. Some people think that vegetables are poison, and the only way to stabilize your physical and mental health is to eat all meat. I followed a green smoothie regimen for years, and still do sometimes, but even that can have its downsides. There is no one size fits all for diet and health. And it would serve us to not assume we have the answer for everyone and everyone’s particular struggles and vilify things that actually do work wonders for many people. All I’m saying.

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My experience also. I was too long low carb keto. It damaged my thyroid, thinned my bones and caused extreme under eating. IF is a trap. My body did not get the glucose it desperately needed for energy production so the stress hormone system cortisol and adrenaline made glucose by robbing my organs and tissues and bones. My metabolism slowed and I began to gain weight, crap sleep. It’s not good long term for many. I’ve learned my lesson.

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I would be surprised if your livelihood was dependent on the pharmaceutical industry in some way because of how defensive you are.

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Hold on there, turbo. I have two autistic kids and am a stay at home mom who has researched the medical industry and pharmaceuticals for a decade now after what has been done to my kids. I have done homeopathy and naturopaths and integrative physicians and holistic diets and detox to help my family overcome all kinds of crap. My rude awakening to our bad state came way before Covid, and is intensely personal. I already knew not to listen to most doctors and already knew any Covid shots were going to be straight poison. I hold the medical industrial complex and pharma cartels in the highest contempt.

But in researching all of that, I fell into the world of peptides and their healing powers and benefits to help overcome our modern problems. And ozempic and others are peptides. I have watched people manage to literally save their own lives, normalize their functions like blood sugar and cholesterol, and get off of all other stupid medications through peptides like semaglutide, which, again, does not cause stomach paralysis and is not a lifetime intervention. I have seen people literally live entirely new lives, free from pains, conditions, and medications because of peptides. And I repeat, most of what pharma does deserves our contempt. This is not one of them.

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Why not lead with this instead of claiming “you would have heard of it.” I am open to polite conversation :) I personally don’t trust anything made by the pharmaceutical industry. You are welcome to defend the drug. I still believe that if companies, regulators, and prescribers were held accountable and the victims compensated you and I would not need to be having this conversation on the internet. Can you really blame the public for questioning everything the industry does?

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I know. I don’t trust anything doctors say, or drugs they push. I’m just saying that we love to vilify drug makers for the damage they do, but only vaccines get full immunity from bad press. And pharma might be greedy with this one, but the cascade effect of people stopping all their other meds is not in pharma’s best interest, so they’ll happily hang Novo out to dry and make people afraid of it. So if it were causing widespread damage, no way would that be hidden.

The FDA likes to warn about other healing peptides, which means they really are only interested in protecting and promoting drug profits. We all know this. But if you extricate the money from it, we do have some remarkable interventions (insulin was the first peptide discovered, and that one is lifesaving) that we should be careful not to lump in with the horror show that vaccines and opioids and psych meds (among others) are.

I think, having researched this area a lot, I was frustrated with the broad brush this guy used to tell an incomplete and inaccurate story of this medication. I want actual truth from our health truth-tellers, not sensational over generalizations.

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That’s fair. I don’t enjoy vilifying drug makers. I feel they did this to themselves. The public has been lied to so many times. After a while, I can’t help but feel that enough is enough. I also feel like they have meddled with our food and water supply to throw our bodies out of balance (just to sell us the drugs that a lot of people do need). Thinking about it just makes me angry. Suffering is a business unfortunately and it’s fueled by greed. Thank you for expanding on your experience. You have broadened my perspective. Some companies might be doing good for the public. It’s unfortunate that when people break the law or bribe politicians and regulators that we don’t have more people with integrity who are strong enough to say no. America would have been stronger for it too.

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Excellent points.

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Because you don't hear from your TV or print news, it's not true? 🤣🤣

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No. It’s because I do hear it from hysterical newsprint and TV that I find it highly suspect. The same people who said the Covid shots were necessary and safe are whining about peptides. I don’t trust a single thing they say.

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Severely slows gastric emptying. See it in the OR.

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Which means...? What are the risks of that slowing down?

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I'm not picking a fight, btw. I'm against use of the drug for weight loss. Are your patients in the OR because of their use of it?

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I'm in "healthcare". This is true. You do you

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Your line of reasoning is highly flawed. He must look at the history of pharmaceuticals and the lawsuits that have been one over bad medicine. Thalidomide comes to mind. It took many years and many birth defects for that drug to finally be pulled. There are many. Vaccines have never been tested against the placebo. The facts are alarming and criminal. And, of course, the disastrous Covid shots are a stark example. You must choose your experts wisely, because the frauds always have the most money backing them and the greatest ability to silence and censor truth.

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I seem to have misrepresented my stance here. I am as anti-pharma as you can be, and Frances Kelsey is definitely a hero of mine, among many others. I am simply saying we are applying our jaded viewpoint to a therapeutic peptide (insulin was among the first therapeutic peptides discovered and used, and would you blame people for using that?) that I have personally seen work wonders for people. My problem is not only with pharmaceutical, but the health and wellness industry, of which this man is part, as well. Everyone thinks they know the ideal path to health, but if you’ve spent any time against very broken and obese people, you know “just try harder” is about the most useless advice you can give. It’s a tricky subject, and I am saying let’s not conflate treatment like this with the crime that is almost all vaccines, as well as opiates and SSRIs. That’s all I’m saying.

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Go to the Government of Canada website. That is what it does. It gives suicidal ideation too.

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Again, I'm not here to defend ozempic. But again, that's an overgeneralization and not accurate. Suicidal ideation is not common at all, and if you use sugar or alcohol to cope with your mental health, and suddenly the desire for those are removed, it makes sense some people experience problems. I'm saying that an insane amount of people are overweight and unhealthy and on 7 - 8 meds to manage that condition, and meds like ozempic turn that tide and get people off all their meds. It helps with heart conditions. It manages a million other inflammatory markers in the body. And it's a synthetic version of a peptide made naturally by the body. I hate and distrust pharma more than the average person, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater by vilifying peptides.

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UBC study says it can lead to stomach paralysis. Plus a host of other conditions.

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one of my best friends just committed suicide and she had just started taking a weight loss drug. I’m not sure it’s the sole reason she did it but it may have helped her actually carry it out. all these weight loss drugs do is make you eat less. you can do that on your own.

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Yes! Eat Less! Word Bro

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That’s not the answer because less calories move more is a fallacy. Metabolic health is complicated. My daughter ate very little. Actually underate. But was very obese. Her metabolism had slowed to match her undereating and blocked energy production, which the less she ate she still gained. Less energy to run her entire body. Your brain uses 40% of energy production. Your body then craves fuel--optimally glucose. She went ahead and got surgery and has lost 135 pounds but has unimaginable sugar cravings because her body is calling for glucose/sugar. No doubt she will slowly gain back and be in a worse position. We can’t discuss this. This calories in calories out, move more is another huge sickening fraud. Follow the money.

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So sorry for your loss. 🙁 Tragedy in the midst of so much noise.

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I have never disliked a Tucker interview, but this one was not good. Like or hate ozempic, it’s the pharma behavior about it that’s the problem. Ozempic is made from a peptide. Peptides are quite miraculous in what they can do for health and well-being. This guy drastically overstated the cases with ozempic, and no, it’s not the next vaccine disaster. And it’s not stomach paralysis. There have been cases, yes. But the people who are now seeking a payday for having been on a drug their doctor should have taken them off of when they showed signs of trouble, are not a representation of the population who use it. (And no, I don’t use it.) I’ve been studying peptides for the last year, and have seen what they can do. Be mad at pharma for their predatory and negligent practices all you want. And we should be. I am. But this guy spouted a lot of nonsense about this medication and now this whole population is going to make assumptions that aren’t true. We have to be better than that.

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Peptides are not necessarily innocuous! In this case the peptide is a hormone. As a rule, we should be very careful when messing with hormones.

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Completely agree. Retired from Pharmacy, he misstated a lot ! Terrible interview. I wonder, is he a physician or a pharmacist?

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Agreed. It's a peptide, not some lab-produced franken-molecule. Big difference.

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Exactly. The liquid-nanoparticle-spike-protein nightmare made no one healthier. Peptides can. Giant difference.

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It causes suicidal ideation. You gain the weight back when you stop. It lists a host of other problems as proven effects. Saying ‘it is just a peptide’ is like saying ‘people please, opioids are chemically the same as endorphins. We need endorphins. Don’t talk people out of OxyContin. It is helping a lot of people.’

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Apples and oranges, and I don't need to argue. But I do invite you to read stories of people who have their lives back after feeling hopeless and headed for an early grave. That's all.

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Big pharma and it's partners in crime the FDA, CDC etc.. are way out of control. Guantanamo Bay needs filling with these crooks.

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And they’re getting to the naturopaths now too 🤬 Just got a marketing email from mine that they are now offering semiglutide shots for weight loss! If she wasn’t the ONLY one within an hour of me I’d fire her.

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Call her out on it. Show her the dangers!

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I did reply to the email telling her she better review the side effects. No reply.

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I have a friend on it. Having issues but she just waves her hands about if I say anything. First thing her doc gave her when she complained about her belly.

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Tell her

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It Turns Out

That Doctors Of Medicine

Are The Tin Foil Lunatics.

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Whatever happened to cutting carbs and sugar and just exercise? I eat very little carbs and I swim at the YMCA and walk a lot. I think a lot of people are looking for a quick fix rather than to research and stick to the basics.

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This is a deceiving article. It states Ozempic isn’t allowed to be sold in europe for obesity. While this is true , it is sold for type 2 diabetes. And prescribed off label for obesity.

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The whole interview was full of inaccuracies. I don’t want to get super defensive of ozempic, since I don’t use it, and people roll their eyes and want to tell people “just eat less and move more” - which the guy in the interview acknowledged isn’t the only issue. But I’ve studied peptides in general, and GLPs, as well, and they are solving unwinnable problems for people. Fact is, our food system is broken. And when a lot of people no longer crave bad foods, whether artificially or not, the food industry will have to reckon with that. And we break the cycle.

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Something needs to be done with all of these medications that kill people. Not enough trials to make sure they’re safe to use.

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The source of the issue is people eat more than they expend. That's always been the case. Do more, eat less. I've been there. It's what works.

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The body produces 100s of 1000s of different peptides. That fact does not exempt Ozempic from being harmful. The body has a kajillion bacteria too. Some good. Some not.

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I wasn’t able to watch the video because I’m working today, but I’ve always thought it was quite sketchy that Ozempic became a very popular and widely used weight loss drug right around the same time that the Covid vaccines were introduced to the public...

Coincidence? I think not. If they can depopulate via a vaccine, who’s to say they can’t and/or won’t depopulate via injectable weight loss drugs? It wasn’t that long ago that I saw an article here on Dr. Ana Mihalcea’s Substack about local dental anesthetics that had tested positive for all of the same bad things that were found in the Covid vaccines...

Don’t fall for it, folks! By hook or by crook, they’re gonna do whatever they have to do to get their evil crap into the bodies of innocent, unsuspecting people.

No thanks! I’d rather be a fat ass. Or just lose weight the old fashioned way.

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Why not take a drug that comes from / is inspired by a lizard venom? https://www.vox.com/22553793/gila-monster-lizard-venom-inspired-obesity-drug-semaglutide As long as it is declared “safe and effective” all good! <sarc>

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For those that are still on the fence about these “drug dealers”…because that is what they are…..here is your history: Thalidomide, MSContin, OxyContin, Vioxx, …etc, etc….

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El Chapo doesn’t pretend his drugs are good for you. He doesn’t advertise. And if you don’t want to use them he doesn’t bribe the government so you are forced into using them. Pharma is worse than the cartels.

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