I don't watch MSM. MSM to me is MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), the brutally harmful ingredient. I read The Epoch Times, listen to Candace Owens, and a few other sources, still view and listen somewhat to The Daily Wire.
Good to know about this.
Best to you in 2025. Stay safe. I think it's going to get crazy stupid soon.
My age as well (60s). The vaccines were never sold to parents as life savers - they were more to avoid the inconvenience of having a sick, itchy and therefore miserable child.
There was no sense of foreboding when kids do any of the standard childhood - just acceptance that that’s have to be mollycoddled a while. And I never heard of a child in our area die from any of them, something that had it happened would have been circulated through the bush telegraph in a flash.
I never did either, 'til I encountered accounts of rare, but not unheard of, measles and chickenpox encephalopathy, as a student RN; that occurred in the mid to late '60s.
Yes, I am also in my 80's and remember that measles, mumps, and chicken pox were things children were expected to have and get over. At about 8 or 9 I had both chicken pox and measles at the same time. I remember that hot lemonade helped to bring out the measles. Mothers back then seemed to take it in stride and knew what to do when it happened. Probably the reason that measles were on the way out was because we were allowed to have them and get over them. Might the graph be showing herd immunity?
Herd immunity, immunity passed through mothers’ milk, hygiene, diet, any or all of the above. But all infectious diseases went exactly the same way, including the once dreaded scarlet fever for which there is still no vaccine.
Scarlet fever, and it's milder cousin, scarletina, are strep related infections (the others are viral infections), so the advent of publicly available Penicillin had more to do with its demise, but that occurred in the post WW II yrs when better diet, sanitation, etc, became more widely available too, so I can see how you'd connect it.
True - thanks for that. I connect them because my point was related both to the pre-WWII downward trajectory, and to the idea that vaccines are simply not needed to manage contagious diseases. Diphtheria and pertussis, for instance, are also bacterial are they not? Why would we not treat them a la scarlet fever with antibiotics in the few cases that arise, instead of subjecting every child to a not very effective (maybe 3years for pertussis) and potentially dangerous vaccine? Rhetorical question. I think I know the answer.
Diphtheria is also strep, but if memory serves, pertussis is viral. Either way, I'm immune, since I had it decades ago. But Diphtheria fell under that "herd immunity" notion, I believe, where we all developed a kind of natural immunity, except when otherwise weakened by some other cause 1st. It'd still be as common as it was a century ago, had we not done so.
Early 70’s here, ( I’m in my late 50’s now. ) chicken pox and mild measles. Mom said Let’s get it over with “ and had lots of popsicles and calamine lotion ready.
My boyfriend on high school had mumps very bad, I guess younger is preferable.
What was it about polio...apparently caused by the pesticide DDT......I heard the vaccine came sometime after DDT was banned and the drop in cases dropped because of the
banned pesticide and not really because of the jab!
When their stock goes down they have to invent FEAR to make their residual drug money.. They always have something in the food or in the environment to cause a dis ease, so they can make money from it.. They look at dis ease going down like they look at stocks going down, they they devise a scheme to bring it back up.. EVIL EVIL people..
A friend was in an iron lung and in a wheelchair as a kid for a while, polio. They were in farm country in upstate New York, swimming. Erie Canal was full of industrial waste not well regulated… pesticides definitely correlated. My mom is on her 80’s and the polio jab sold her for life on vaccine in general. She’s always up to date.
Covid jab gave her some problems. , she blames “ long covid “
Jack Kruse is convinced that it was the inclusion of SV40 in the polio 'vaccine' that actually caused the cancer epidemic that started right around the time of Salk's work. DDT was being sprayed in the streets of cities around that time as well, and there are iconic photos of children playing in the streets directly in the the spray that the big trucks were dispensing. Polio outbreaks in areas were 'coincidental' to these mass spraying campaigns. Interesting how polio paralysis and exploding rates of cancer seem to be directly related to the marriage between corporate government and the medical industrial complex.
Australian RN Sister Kenny was having remarkable success with moist heat and PT a long with nutrition at treating especially afflicted children, a century and more ago.
In the book "Cure the Incurable" By Thomas E. LEVY, MD, JD, he mentions a Dr. Klenner, MD, who was curing the viral syndrome known as polio by using IV vitamin C treatments. He documented curing 60 out of 60 patients around 1948.
The vaccine program but especially the Measles vaccine is driven by fear. Fear based propaganda. Meanwhile, information on how to treat the Measles, such as large doses of VIt A, are suppressed.
This information is very under appreciated. Each vaccine on "The Roster" should be individually evaluated. Potential risks should finally be studied and published. Only then can a real risk- benefit analysis be conducted. The risk from measles seems to be minimal and has been so for over 6 decades. As a result of this fact, the benefit of the measles vaccine appears to be negligible.
That's a narrative. If they stopped crested the diseases, none of the vaccines are needed. Besides, whst good is it to survive measles but get cancer from sv40,.polysorbate 80, aluminum (thimerosal), mercury, etc. Fauci trstified that NONE have undergonr safery testing much less a life time of 80÷. They're all poisonous toxins. Why do you think any eugenecists, salk, richert, gates, etc. care about preserving life? They don't.
Yup. Same narrative written and pushed by the same authors of all these stories in a very long game that's been unrolling for generations. It's crazy how many people seem to think that these bad actors all just coincidentally fell asleep one night at the beginning of covid completely normal....and then woke up as total sociopaths the next morning, all deciding to work together to reduce the world's population. There is nothing about their past claims, or their past intentions that can be taken for granted ever again!
The vaccine did not save us from small pox either. In fact the small pox vaccine killed masses of people. Read Turtles all the Way Down and Dissolving Illusions. There is no need for any vaccine.
Understand, in RARE instances, both measles and chickenpox can cause encephalopathies, which are extremely dangerous, and cause significant neurological deficits. However, RARE is the operative word here. I was pretty "aware" as a kid, and never heard of such occuring 'til I was in nursing school.
Vaccines never cured anything because they are drugs and the drug companies are not in the business of ' CURES"...Its not their business model nor has it ever been.., Their business model is FEAR about a dis ease and pay off the FDA and the CDC to approve their poison drugs and create their pipeline.... Their business model is to stoke FEAR about a dis ease and make you take the drug poison and create more dis ease so they can make residual income.. All of their drugs for any and all dis eases are meant to cause side effects to give you more dis ease so you can take another drug for that side effect and more residual income.. Its a never ending cycle and the government is in on it, because they okay it through HHS, CDC, FDA, ABIM, ACIP..
Both of my brothers and my sister had the measles about 1975. I didn’t. I’ve also never had the chickenpox, but all of my siblings did, and all 4 of my kids did.
I spent 16 years in the Army, and I had dozens of vaccines. The first time I took the pneumonia vaccine I had an allergic reaction to it. I was told to never take another vaccine. That was in 2018.
Vitamin K shot is still pushed on new parents even if they reject HepB. Staff scares mom w brain bleed stories. What is in that shot? Can’t be trusted. And if babies needed that higher K level on days 2-6 when it is naturally low don’t you think God would’ve provided that? 😡
Great intel..can’t beat this guy…hopefully you all know that vaccines are killing your pets too .
Oftentimes, creating chronic disease that lasts for years, long before death ensues. Just to make that point clearer. The Itch is chief among them. More on that in my last Vital Animal News: December 15: https://vitalanimal.substack.com/p/vital-animal-news-december-15-2024?r=1n68zk
Yes, 💯% they are!! But there is some help against the side affects. Mushroom therapy. Look into it ILovePets247.com
JJ Carroll promotes this product on his show at
Worldviewtube.com and has had the developers on to explain how it was developed and the benefits it has for cats dogs horses and yes even humans.
Great product. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Thanks for the website John. Never heard of this news source.
Your welcome.
Hope you find it helpful.
Brannon Howse who started this site in the early 2000s has been doing conferences, lectures and writing books since the early 1990s.
He is also on 60 plus radio stations daily and you can see his broadcast and his nightly live news and talk show from 7:00pmCST to 9:00pmCST M/F.
He has different guests every night and talks about current events that one won’t see on MSM.
He’s going to be back live tonight after his holiday break.
I don't watch MSM. MSM to me is MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), the brutally harmful ingredient. I read The Epoch Times, listen to Candace Owens, and a few other sources, still view and listen somewhat to The Daily Wire.
Good to know about this.
Best to you in 2025. Stay safe. I think it's going to get crazy stupid soon.
Love your definition of MSM.
Couldn’t agree more.
Thanks for your reply and best to you in 2025 as well.
I believe you are correct about 2025. We better buckle up tight for the ride.
Thank you Kim.
Measles were just a rite of passage for people my age (80s). Big Pharma is
BIG HARMA
My age as well (60s). The vaccines were never sold to parents as life savers - they were more to avoid the inconvenience of having a sick, itchy and therefore miserable child.
There was no sense of foreboding when kids do any of the standard childhood - just acceptance that that’s have to be mollycoddled a while. And I never heard of a child in our area die from any of them, something that had it happened would have been circulated through the bush telegraph in a flash.
It’s all a massive con.
I never did either, 'til I encountered accounts of rare, but not unheard of, measles and chickenpox encephalopathy, as a student RN; that occurred in the mid to late '60s.
Yes, I am also in my 80's and remember that measles, mumps, and chicken pox were things children were expected to have and get over. At about 8 or 9 I had both chicken pox and measles at the same time. I remember that hot lemonade helped to bring out the measles. Mothers back then seemed to take it in stride and knew what to do when it happened. Probably the reason that measles were on the way out was because we were allowed to have them and get over them. Might the graph be showing herd immunity?
Herd immunity, immunity passed through mothers’ milk, hygiene, diet, any or all of the above. But all infectious diseases went exactly the same way, including the once dreaded scarlet fever for which there is still no vaccine.
Scarlet fever, and it's milder cousin, scarletina, are strep related infections (the others are viral infections), so the advent of publicly available Penicillin had more to do with its demise, but that occurred in the post WW II yrs when better diet, sanitation, etc, became more widely available too, so I can see how you'd connect it.
True - thanks for that. I connect them because my point was related both to the pre-WWII downward trajectory, and to the idea that vaccines are simply not needed to manage contagious diseases. Diphtheria and pertussis, for instance, are also bacterial are they not? Why would we not treat them a la scarlet fever with antibiotics in the few cases that arise, instead of subjecting every child to a not very effective (maybe 3years for pertussis) and potentially dangerous vaccine? Rhetorical question. I think I know the answer.
Diphtheria is also strep, but if memory serves, pertussis is viral. Either way, I'm immune, since I had it decades ago. But Diphtheria fell under that "herd immunity" notion, I believe, where we all developed a kind of natural immunity, except when otherwise weakened by some other cause 1st. It'd still be as common as it was a century ago, had we not done so.
Agreed.
Dissolving Illusions
Grew up 40s/50s, some moms had chicken pox parties, especially if it was a group of kids in contact a lot
Early 70’s here, ( I’m in my late 50’s now. ) chicken pox and mild measles. Mom said Let’s get it over with “ and had lots of popsicles and calamine lotion ready.
My boyfriend on high school had mumps very bad, I guess younger is preferable.
Definitely; after puberty mumps is especially bad in males, frequently causing sterility.
Yep, also measles and mumps.
What was it about polio...apparently caused by the pesticide DDT......I heard the vaccine came sometime after DDT was banned and the drop in cases dropped because of the
banned pesticide and not really because of the jab!
When their stock goes down they have to invent FEAR to make their residual drug money.. They always have something in the food or in the environment to cause a dis ease, so they can make money from it.. They look at dis ease going down like they look at stocks going down, they they devise a scheme to bring it back up.. EVIL EVIL people..
For more info, read “Moth in the Iron Lung.”
The author was interview, not too long ago by Brett Weinstein on the dark horse podcast.
A friend was in an iron lung and in a wheelchair as a kid for a while, polio. They were in farm country in upstate New York, swimming. Erie Canal was full of industrial waste not well regulated… pesticides definitely correlated. My mom is on her 80’s and the polio jab sold her for life on vaccine in general. She’s always up to date.
Covid jab gave her some problems. , she blames “ long covid “
DDT = Polio
Polio predated DDT, and DDT was around well after polio's decline. Try again.
Jack Kruse is convinced that it was the inclusion of SV40 in the polio 'vaccine' that actually caused the cancer epidemic that started right around the time of Salk's work. DDT was being sprayed in the streets of cities around that time as well, and there are iconic photos of children playing in the streets directly in the the spray that the big trucks were dispensing. Polio outbreaks in areas were 'coincidental' to these mass spraying campaigns. Interesting how polio paralysis and exploding rates of cancer seem to be directly related to the marriage between corporate government and the medical industrial complex.
The book "Curing the Incurable" written by Thomas Levy, MD, JD, he mentioned a Dr. Klenner that was curing polio by doing IV vitamin C treatments.
Australian RN Sister Kenny was having remarkable success with moist heat and PT a long with nutrition at treating especially afflicted children, a century and more ago.
No, DDT was still in common use, even after the Sabin version hit the market.
In the book "Cure the Incurable" By Thomas E. LEVY, MD, JD, he mentions a Dr. Klenner, MD, who was curing the viral syndrome known as polio by using IV vitamin C treatments. He documented curing 60 out of 60 patients around 1948.
The vaccine program but especially the Measles vaccine is driven by fear. Fear based propaganda. Meanwhile, information on how to treat the Measles, such as large doses of VIt A, are suppressed.
This information is very under appreciated. Each vaccine on "The Roster" should be individually evaluated. Potential risks should finally be studied and published. Only then can a real risk- benefit analysis be conducted. The risk from measles seems to be minimal and has been so for over 6 decades. As a result of this fact, the benefit of the measles vaccine appears to be negligible.
All vaccines are tremendous risk, zero benefit.
SMALL POX SUCKED! Killed many, horribly. Way better since the vaccine.
That's a narrative. If they stopped crested the diseases, none of the vaccines are needed. Besides, whst good is it to survive measles but get cancer from sv40,.polysorbate 80, aluminum (thimerosal), mercury, etc. Fauci trstified that NONE have undergonr safery testing much less a life time of 80÷. They're all poisonous toxins. Why do you think any eugenecists, salk, richert, gates, etc. care about preserving life? They don't.
Yup. Same narrative written and pushed by the same authors of all these stories in a very long game that's been unrolling for generations. It's crazy how many people seem to think that these bad actors all just coincidentally fell asleep one night at the beginning of covid completely normal....and then woke up as total sociopaths the next morning, all deciding to work together to reduce the world's population. There is nothing about their past claims, or their past intentions that can be taken for granted ever again!
I recently saw a chart giving the childhood vaccine trials- some were for 2-3 days one was from five weeks. Absolutely no safety data.
Yes I saw the same. These vaccines went through almost no testing and they’re pushing them on our kids. It needs to stop
The vaccine did not save us from small pox either. In fact the small pox vaccine killed masses of people. Read Turtles all the Way Down and Dissolving Illusions. There is no need for any vaccine.
They stopped vaccinating in the '70s.
Understand, in RARE instances, both measles and chickenpox can cause encephalopathies, which are extremely dangerous, and cause significant neurological deficits. However, RARE is the operative word here. I was pretty "aware" as a kid, and never heard of such occuring 'til I was in nursing school.
Surely the measles (flu, etc.) ‘vaccine’ wasn’t another hoax?
All vaccines are a hoax.
LOL
Has anyone other than me noticed that only the people who have had the jab get Covid and flu etc.?
Vaccines never cured anything because they are drugs and the drug companies are not in the business of ' CURES"...Its not their business model nor has it ever been.., Their business model is FEAR about a dis ease and pay off the FDA and the CDC to approve their poison drugs and create their pipeline.... Their business model is to stoke FEAR about a dis ease and make you take the drug poison and create more dis ease so they can make residual income.. All of their drugs for any and all dis eases are meant to cause side effects to give you more dis ease so you can take another drug for that side effect and more residual income.. Its a never ending cycle and the government is in on it, because they okay it through HHS, CDC, FDA, ABIM, ACIP..
Good point, but not exactly a bombshell. Some of us have been shouting this for many years.
A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…
Both of my brothers and my sister had the measles about 1975. I didn’t. I’ve also never had the chickenpox, but all of my siblings did, and all 4 of my kids did.
I spent 16 years in the Army, and I had dozens of vaccines. The first time I took the pneumonia vaccine I had an allergic reaction to it. I was told to never take another vaccine. That was in 2018.
The Brady Bunch measles episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5289k-dbOMY
No need for any injections that poison when the virus hasn’t been isolated.
Vitamin K shot is still pushed on new parents even if they reject HepB. Staff scares mom w brain bleed stories. What is in that shot? Can’t be trusted. And if babies needed that higher K level on days 2-6 when it is naturally low don’t you think God would’ve provided that? 😡