We're lucky to be living in an area with Amish close by. I've attended numerous farmer's markets and craft shows with them, as well as their produce auction. One of the Amish farmers at the town market told me that the English tend to romanticize their lifestyle, but it's hard work. He said he couldn't possibly succeed without his whole family pitching in. He finally had to quit coming to that particular market as gas prices went insane, and the cost of his ride became prohibitive. Interestingly, cell phones are making inroads with the Amish. Some of them use the 'dumb' phones, keep the phone in the barn, rather than the house, and periodically check messages.
According to our friends, they got down to about 5-15% organic farming about 10 years ago before they started seeing big health problems and turning the tide.
Our friend’s beautiful mom got cancer and died young. I think this broke him. He packed up and moved to Kentucky.
We get our food from one of several Amish farms weekly. It’s a good tough life, but everyone has problems.
I'm not really a fan of the way Steve uses assumptions in his calculations, but obviously this line of thinking deserves a lot more attention. Are Amish healthier than average Americans? Almost certainly. Do they have higher levels of vitamin D? I have no idea but it seems reasonable. Plus, there's the vaccination aspect.
I think if we dug into the issue, we'd find that doing nothing (The Amish Strategy, we can call it) beat the pants off the American Strategy of infecting nursing homes with covid patients and then throwing them onto ventilators when they got to the hospital. (And then keeping everybody inside and on the couch instead of out in the sunshine during summer! Twice!)
He needs to back it up with the real data from Lancaster county. IE how many Amish actually died in 2020-2022 and then tie that data to if they had Covid it’s a finite population and in a compact location I would think it very possible to get done.
Holy crap, what is the point of “getting the data”?! The Amish obviously did not perish in great numbers from COVID. Given it is a respiratory virus, there is also no way they were isolated from it, as the Amish are not total hermits. So doing nothing works, enough said.
Exactly. It looks like he's also assuming all the Amish got infected, which almost certainly isn't true. Maybe he's just trying to start a conversation -- which I totally get -- but a little more care in the numbers would go a long way in my opinion.
It's safe to assume that the Amish got infected at least similarly to everybody else, since they didn't isolate. We had over 3 years of 'buggs', 3 summers of farmer's markets, and auctions, tourism and lots of comingling of workers. I'd say that their death rate attributed to possible COVID was lower. Real data for comparison will never be obtained, because our PCR testing was poor quality, and because Amish didn't have much testing.
They may have gotten infected at comparable rates but also may have suffered far less from comordities while also avoiding hazardous medical intervention more often than the general population?
You're recognition of our multifaceted immune defenses will disrupt those "experts" who have redefined vaccines as drugs which stimulate a rise in antibodies. :-D
They may have gotten infected at comparable rates but also may have suffered far less from comordities while also avoiding hazardous medical intervention more often than the general population?
Sounds like a good job for both of you (Reality Speaks & SimulationCommander) with names like that why don't you 2 get the data?! BTW there is SO much data out now about this plandemic that it obvious WE WERE LIED TO!!! Get the REAL DR. FAUCI by RFKjr. & Whitney Webbs books ONE NATION UNDER BLACKMAIL then you will understand that this Amish information at this point is simply more validation of what both Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Whitney Webb reveal in their books. Then we would like to hear your "critical analysis" of this article and video. Follow the money/power and chain of command Commander!
There is lots of data, and we know we've been lied to. That said, covid infection data for Amish people in Lancaster County would be almost impossible to get. This doesn't mean we should just make assumptions and handwave away the rest.
Instead, let's focus on places where we CAN get data and use that to prove they've always been lying.........
Much DATA SET POINTS have shown the protocols killed people, the masks don't stop anything in full, bit they do cause Carbon Monoxide to remain in our system at a higher rate. It was all a sham to al out votes to steal an election, PERIOD. So, the flu just disappeared (LOL) according to stats. They incentivized hospitals to call every COVID 19 in order to steal an election, that is how cra cra the left are.
Why can’t you go there get the raw data from the county officials. Find someone local who can help identify those that were Amish. Then reach out to the Amish to see if you can determine if Covid was involved in their death.
Let's face it, as the Amish didn't have TV's blaring out fear porn 24/7 telling them how deadly and dangerous this alleged virus was, they didn't know or care and carried on life normally. Switch off your TVs!
Steve, please accept my respect and admiration for your work. I am so grateful for your intellect, your courage, and your dogged determination to surface truth--which I believe comes from your heart.
We make a big deal of "truth" in our society. In churches, movies, government, relationships...you name it. Yet we're still developing our taste for it. (Too often we react to the truth like someone has offered us a bucket of manure!)
Your actions are the true measure of success, money, and personal power. Helping humanity develop its "taste" for the truth. You are on the right side of history. I hope its not lonely there, but kudos and my sincere thank you!
I know a few Amish families here in Central PA. I remember sharing the joke about the Amish not getting ill because they have no television and my Amish friend informed me otherwise. There was illness in their community at the same time but they have their own doctor and, when one is sick, significant naturopathic outpatient treatment is available from within. They never shut down and their farm markets were always mask optional. Truly, ignorance (of the real misinformation) is bliss. Their way really was safe and effective.
In November of 2021, we went to an anniversary celebration at our little church. Fifteen people at the church acquired Covid at that party. My husband had one of the most serious cases out of the group as he had bilateral pneumonia. I am (unjabbed) and was also very sick, with high fevers (my resting heart rate was in the 120’s) as were several of our congregation, 1 was hospitalized.
We all recovered but it was a scary two month process of recovery for my husband and I. We purchased ivermectin from Frontline Doctors for a whopping $600.00. 😡We also got monoclonal antibodies which I believed helped only somewhat. It was prayers, vitamins, rest, fluids and time that healed us.
We can agree on the terrible way the disease was handled and the excessive harm that impacted people on a global scale. Additionally, I definitely believe that the virus was lab created through gain of function research. I also agree that the jabs are harmful, and in many cases have been deadly.
The earliest variants being the worst, until that time, we have never been so sick in our lives.
I had the initial strain as well and had viral pneumonia in both lungs. I refused to go to the hospital though. If I were to die, I wanted to be in my own home and around those I love instead of alone in a hospital with those I don't know and can't blindly trust in that situation. I had a two day period where I thought I may depart at any moment but then turned the corner. I'd say I was laid up for three solid weeks. A year later the omicron variant hit my household and it was a piece of cake. It was much like having a cold for 4 days. The original and delta strain appeared to be far more dangerous than the strains that followed.
I’m sorry you went through that! It’s very scary to be that sick. Glad you recovered! 🙏🏻
I find it such hypocrisy when people on one hand decry the evident censorship and propaganda by the government on Covid, but then also reject the fact that Covid is even real.
It’s clear that there is propaganda being believed by both sides, left and right. Hoards of people didn’t get sick at once from a made up disease.
I don't trust the vaccines and refused to get them but there was a pretty high rate of Covid death before the vaccines were ever rolled out. However, the initital strain seems to also have been the worst of the bunch too.
The Viral Delusion video series provides a strong argument that the pandemic/Event201/plandemic is a total scam. It is a five-part series at just over 8 hours.
It asks the question, "Is SARS-CoV-2 the cause of Covid-19?" The series explains that the assumed virus has never been isolated and a range of symptoms leads to a diagnosis. Or error-prone tests whether someone has symptoms or not. Directed by Michael Wallach, also includes Andrew Kaufman, Celia Farber, David Rasnick, Sam Bailey, Mark Bailey, Stefano Scoglio, and many others. The entire series can be viewed by doing a search on Rumble.
Covid is REAL. My daughter still doesn’t smell or taste well 2 years later. Myself, my husband, and most people in my church suffered with it for weeks or months. It’s ridiculous that anyone still argues the position that Covid is made up.
Covid as a condition can be real while not being one particular strain of virus, especially one supposedly sequenced in China before they sent out that DNA blast in early 2020. There are plenty of videos up from 2018 where people warned us this would happen when 5G was turned up. 5G is a huge spectrum from 3Ghz to 90Ghz. 60Ghz interferes with O2, many of those frequencies can disturb the topology of skin (where vitamin D3 is made), the 2016 Nobel prize in physics was allegedly given out for this effect where surface changes can affect the depths underneath.
I don't trust the vaccines and refused to get them but there was a pretty high rate of Covid death before the vaccines were ever rolled out. However, the initital strain seems to also have been the worst of the bunch too.
Thats because Amish are not only smarter they are not greedy like Big Pharma who wants all the money and disregaurds all the injuries that they have imposed on people. The people would have been better off having the Ivermectin, but the greedy owners of the so called”vaccine” wanted money more than they wanted the best interest of the people.
Steve is a reliable source. If not Steve then who? Who is a reliable source? I never needed studies when something made me feel better. I was the study. Im sure youre a great person but I have had it with sources. Especially reliable ones.
The largest State in India, Uttar Pradesh, couldn't afford big Pharma's drugs either. They passed out Ivermectin, zinc and HQ. 130, million people, lowest afflicted on the subcontinent! Kind of suggests something, I'd say.
The Amish knew not to put their faith in a corrupt government. Some of us knew that too and didn’t get sick.
The WHO is planning another plandemic that they hope will kill more people than the last attempt did.
Everyone with common sense needs to resist.
We're lucky to be living in an area with Amish close by. I've attended numerous farmer's markets and craft shows with them, as well as their produce auction. One of the Amish farmers at the town market told me that the English tend to romanticize their lifestyle, but it's hard work. He said he couldn't possibly succeed without his whole family pitching in. He finally had to quit coming to that particular market as gas prices went insane, and the cost of his ride became prohibitive. Interestingly, cell phones are making inroads with the Amish. Some of them use the 'dumb' phones, keep the phone in the barn, rather than the house, and periodically check messages.
Thanks for sharing your interesting experience. We have much to learn from their less materialistic lifestyle 😇
I do think that overall Amish have more God-consciousness than me. They're less distracted. So I pay attention to what they teach.
💯 ageee
Let’s ALL do the Amish medical program!
Zero vaccine, zero junk food.
They do eat some cake and stuff. But they also work out all day, and a lot of it outdoors. Often literally until the cows come home, lol.
You haven't met the ladies of the Yoder family, who make the amazing pastries and baked items in massive quantities. Sooooo excellent :-D
They eat a lot of junk.
According to our friends, they got down to about 5-15% organic farming about 10 years ago before they started seeing big health problems and turning the tide.
Our friend’s beautiful mom got cancer and died young. I think this broke him. He packed up and moved to Kentucky.
We get our food from one of several Amish farms weekly. It’s a good tough life, but everyone has problems.
What do you mean by junk?
Non organic food?
Thank you. Wasn’t being super precise.
They started eating supermarket “English” food.
That includes non-organic
Missed lunch with our Amish friends on Saturday and that feels like a big mistake.
Many of the Amish grow organic food now as well! They’re much more in tune with what’s happening then we realize 👍
I'm not really a fan of the way Steve uses assumptions in his calculations, but obviously this line of thinking deserves a lot more attention. Are Amish healthier than average Americans? Almost certainly. Do they have higher levels of vitamin D? I have no idea but it seems reasonable. Plus, there's the vaccination aspect.
I think if we dug into the issue, we'd find that doing nothing (The Amish Strategy, we can call it) beat the pants off the American Strategy of infecting nursing homes with covid patients and then throwing them onto ventilators when they got to the hospital. (And then keeping everybody inside and on the couch instead of out in the sunshine during summer! Twice!)
He needs to back it up with the real data from Lancaster county. IE how many Amish actually died in 2020-2022 and then tie that data to if they had Covid it’s a finite population and in a compact location I would think it very possible to get done.
Holy crap, what is the point of “getting the data”?! The Amish obviously did not perish in great numbers from COVID. Given it is a respiratory virus, there is also no way they were isolated from it, as the Amish are not total hermits. So doing nothing works, enough said.
Exactly. It looks like he's also assuming all the Amish got infected, which almost certainly isn't true. Maybe he's just trying to start a conversation -- which I totally get -- but a little more care in the numbers would go a long way in my opinion.
It's safe to assume that the Amish got infected at least similarly to everybody else, since they didn't isolate. We had over 3 years of 'buggs', 3 summers of farmer's markets, and auctions, tourism and lots of comingling of workers. I'd say that their death rate attributed to possible COVID was lower. Real data for comparison will never be obtained, because our PCR testing was poor quality, and because Amish didn't have much testing.
They may have gotten infected at comparable rates but also may have suffered far less from comordities while also avoiding hazardous medical intervention more often than the general population?
Agreed, but there also seemed to be some sort of pre-existing immunity, so first we'd also have to be able to suss that out (and we should try!)
You're recognition of our multifaceted immune defenses will disrupt those "experts" who have redefined vaccines as drugs which stimulate a rise in antibodies. :-D
They may have gotten infected at comparable rates but also may have suffered far less from comordities while also avoiding hazardous medical intervention more often than the general population?
Sounds like a good job for both of you (Reality Speaks & SimulationCommander) with names like that why don't you 2 get the data?! BTW there is SO much data out now about this plandemic that it obvious WE WERE LIED TO!!! Get the REAL DR. FAUCI by RFKjr. & Whitney Webbs books ONE NATION UNDER BLACKMAIL then you will understand that this Amish information at this point is simply more validation of what both Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Whitney Webb reveal in their books. Then we would like to hear your "critical analysis" of this article and video. Follow the money/power and chain of command Commander!
There is lots of data, and we know we've been lied to. That said, covid infection data for Amish people in Lancaster County would be almost impossible to get. This doesn't mean we should just make assumptions and handwave away the rest.
Instead, let's focus on places where we CAN get data and use that to prove they've always been lying.........
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/lying-with-statistics
Spot - on, SimCom ... do you think we could call that a " Straw - HAT Argument"?
Much DATA SET POINTS have shown the protocols killed people, the masks don't stop anything in full, bit they do cause Carbon Monoxide to remain in our system at a higher rate. It was all a sham to al out votes to steal an election, PERIOD. So, the flu just disappeared (LOL) according to stats. They incentivized hospitals to call every COVID 19 in order to steal an election, that is how cra cra the left are.
Where do you get the numbers on Amish deaths?
Why can’t you go there get the raw data from the county officials. Find someone local who can help identify those that were Amish. Then reach out to the Amish to see if you can determine if Covid was involved in their death.
Let's face it, as the Amish didn't have TV's blaring out fear porn 24/7 telling them how deadly and dangerous this alleged virus was, they didn't know or care and carried on life normally. Switch off your TVs!
I don't have a TV so I missed all that nonsense.
Steve, please accept my respect and admiration for your work. I am so grateful for your intellect, your courage, and your dogged determination to surface truth--which I believe comes from your heart.
We make a big deal of "truth" in our society. In churches, movies, government, relationships...you name it. Yet we're still developing our taste for it. (Too often we react to the truth like someone has offered us a bucket of manure!)
Your actions are the true measure of success, money, and personal power. Helping humanity develop its "taste" for the truth. You are on the right side of history. I hope its not lonely there, but kudos and my sincere thank you!
Wow. Exceptional work.
I know a few Amish families here in Central PA. I remember sharing the joke about the Amish not getting ill because they have no television and my Amish friend informed me otherwise. There was illness in their community at the same time but they have their own doctor and, when one is sick, significant naturopathic outpatient treatment is available from within. They never shut down and their farm markets were always mask optional. Truly, ignorance (of the real misinformation) is bliss. Their way really was safe and effective.
Nobody died of CoNVid. May be because Amish were not not injected with Nanoparticle Biowepon aka "Covid Vaccines"
IMPORTANT: The COVID 19 Bioweapons Are “Nano Technology Enabled” – The National Nanotechnology Initiative
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/important-the-covid-19-bioweapons
Dr. Mike Yeadon Comments on "There Was No Pandemic" by Denis Rancourt
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadon-comments-on-there
Dr. Michael Yeadon: Every Single Thing We Were Told Is a LIE
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadon-comments-on-there
Reminder. Dr Phil Febo: Moderna and Pfizer Never Had the ‘Isolated’ Virus in Their Lab, They Used the Sequence Sent From China
Chinese CDC Admits They Never Isolated the Virus. Kary Mullis about PCR test
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadon-comments-on-there
In November of 2021, we went to an anniversary celebration at our little church. Fifteen people at the church acquired Covid at that party. My husband had one of the most serious cases out of the group as he had bilateral pneumonia. I am (unjabbed) and was also very sick, with high fevers (my resting heart rate was in the 120’s) as were several of our congregation, 1 was hospitalized.
We all recovered but it was a scary two month process of recovery for my husband and I. We purchased ivermectin from Frontline Doctors for a whopping $600.00. 😡We also got monoclonal antibodies which I believed helped only somewhat. It was prayers, vitamins, rest, fluids and time that healed us.
We can agree on the terrible way the disease was handled and the excessive harm that impacted people on a global scale. Additionally, I definitely believe that the virus was lab created through gain of function research. I also agree that the jabs are harmful, and in many cases have been deadly.
The earliest variants being the worst, until that time, we have never been so sick in our lives.
But seriously, Covid is real. I lived it.
I had the initial strain as well and had viral pneumonia in both lungs. I refused to go to the hospital though. If I were to die, I wanted to be in my own home and around those I love instead of alone in a hospital with those I don't know and can't blindly trust in that situation. I had a two day period where I thought I may depart at any moment but then turned the corner. I'd say I was laid up for three solid weeks. A year later the omicron variant hit my household and it was a piece of cake. It was much like having a cold for 4 days. The original and delta strain appeared to be far more dangerous than the strains that followed.
I’m sorry you went through that! It’s very scary to be that sick. Glad you recovered! 🙏🏻
I find it such hypocrisy when people on one hand decry the evident censorship and propaganda by the government on Covid, but then also reject the fact that Covid is even real.
It’s clear that there is propaganda being believed by both sides, left and right. Hoards of people didn’t get sick at once from a made up disease.
I don't trust the vaccines and refused to get them but there was a pretty high rate of Covid death before the vaccines were ever rolled out. However, the initital strain seems to also have been the worst of the bunch too.
The Viral Delusion video series provides a strong argument that the pandemic/Event201/plandemic is a total scam. It is a five-part series at just over 8 hours.
It asks the question, "Is SARS-CoV-2 the cause of Covid-19?" The series explains that the assumed virus has never been isolated and a range of symptoms leads to a diagnosis. Or error-prone tests whether someone has symptoms or not. Directed by Michael Wallach, also includes Andrew Kaufman, Celia Farber, David Rasnick, Sam Bailey, Mark Bailey, Stefano Scoglio, and many others. The entire series can be viewed by doing a search on Rumble.
Covid is REAL. My daughter still doesn’t smell or taste well 2 years later. Myself, my husband, and most people in my church suffered with it for weeks or months. It’s ridiculous that anyone still argues the position that Covid is made up.
Covid as a condition can be real while not being one particular strain of virus, especially one supposedly sequenced in China before they sent out that DNA blast in early 2020. There are plenty of videos up from 2018 where people warned us this would happen when 5G was turned up. 5G is a huge spectrum from 3Ghz to 90Ghz. 60Ghz interferes with O2, many of those frequencies can disturb the topology of skin (where vitamin D3 is made), the 2016 Nobel prize in physics was allegedly given out for this effect where surface changes can affect the depths underneath.
Believe it if you want, the viral cause was never proven, not even close.
I don't trust the vaccines and refused to get them but there was a pretty high rate of Covid death before the vaccines were ever rolled out. However, the initital strain seems to also have been the worst of the bunch too.
Definitions Matter: What The World Health Organization Calls A "COVID Death"?
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/definitions-matter-what-the-world
Let's just say that the Amish death rate was effectively ZERO.
I believe they drink unpasteurized milk too .... milk with nutrients and enzymes have not been destroyed by boiling.
Whole raw milk
Not homogenized
Not pasteurized
Another great point that will go largely or wholly ignored… 🤦🏾♂️
Thats because Amish are not only smarter they are not greedy like Big Pharma who wants all the money and disregaurds all the injuries that they have imposed on people. The people would have been better off having the Ivermectin, but the greedy owners of the so called”vaccine” wanted money more than they wanted the best interest of the people.
The Amish will have a better response because they dont get any vaccines and avoid overexposure to EMF. I wonder what their Autism rate is?
Good question.
Maybe that data quest could Steve's next big adventure!
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If verifiable this must be highly significant.
No testing, no compliance, no hysteria, no pandemic.
Does anyone have any reliable sources for this?
In particular, would be good to know that this is reflected in all-cause data as well as no doubt they’ll say “it was just under attribution”.
I do reckon if reliable data were available for African countries which also couldn’t afford to have a pandemic, you’d find the same.
Alas, we have no such data and perhaps never will.
Steve is a reliable source. If not Steve then who? Who is a reliable source? I never needed studies when something made me feel better. I was the study. Im sure youre a great person but I have had it with sources. Especially reliable ones.
I hear you and not for a minute did I mean to imply that Steve is not a reliable source. And I’m on your side FFS!
I’d like to write this up and i just know the “other side” will ask for some data source from some document.
That’s all.
I think it’s hard to get not being a member of the Amish society.
The largest State in India, Uttar Pradesh, couldn't afford big Pharma's drugs either. They passed out Ivermectin, zinc and HQ. 130, million people, lowest afflicted on the subcontinent! Kind of suggests something, I'd say.
Amen to that brother . The con merchants didn’t get to the Amish