It might be a bastion of free speech but the security protocols on Telegram are extremely poor. I subscribe to 7 channels and comment on them infrequently but I regular get spoof messages from people pretending to be the channel host and using their images. Telegram does nothing to stop this.
In my experience, shadow banning and other "soft censorship" practices do exist on Telegram, as well as other platforms traditionally equated with conservative viewpoints. Especially when I've found myself "ahead of the curve" in regards to the "timing" of certain disclosures; which ultimately led me to the conclusion that Right, Left, or In-Between; it's pretty much ALL Controlled Narrative.
I no longer participate with any other platform than Substack, which IS consistently a "Bastion of Free Speech".
Originally established in St. Petersburg, Telegram was forced to leave Russia for Dubai due to "IT regulations". The UK, Europe and Singapore were not options either, so Dubai it was. Everyone should know the server locations of the SM apps they support. Especially if it's California or Canada.
Except that Apple and Google somehow have control of the apps and can block you from seeing content and comments in the apps.
I had an Android phone and went to telegram’s website and downloaded their version on my Android phone and that got me around Google’s censorship. Now I have Apple so I tried to do the same thing but telegram’s website won’t load on my stupid phone. I don’t understand how these companies can interfere with what consumers can see or not see. Also, if they have the power to do this with telegram, why are they not doing the same with X?
I did the same when I had an android phone. I switched to iPhone and was still able to download from the telegram website. I think I accessed it from the Brave browser on my iPhone.
Pretty sure this is an RFK venture, which is fine if that's what it is, but they should be upfront about it. They should state it's RFK's page and that he's partnering with certain folks, so that none of us are mislead.
LOL!! Why was Timothy Winey banned?? I thought what he wrote was a hilarious comment on the difficulties involved in being an AI chatbot programmer -- and (more pertinently perhaps) the ease with which readers' perceptions can be manipulated by judicious use of language. That is, it's possible to send an entirely erroneous message in such a way that you can't be prosecuted for lying.
Meanwhile, I'd love to subscribe to the Telegram thingeys in question, but my computer is too old to accept the Telegram app. :-(
So he's backtracking again. He got on Twitter because it was supposedly the only free-speech platform available. Some of us knew that Twitter is still not free-speech, and that Telegram is; but somehow Tucker was still in the dark on this? MAYBE his intentions are good, but he's still playing us (like the rest of the white hats), and I don't like to be deceived. What was his real reason for lying about Twitter? I don't trust him.
Endorsing Biden because you see Trump as an existential threat makes no sense. Replacing Biden with a sharp, anti-corruption candidate would be the thing to do in that case. The fact that the DNC won’t replace Biden with RFK Jr. tells us their real fear is an end to their racket.
Remember when those of us with “wrong-think” were kicked out of social media like FB, Twitter & YouTube and they said “if you don’t like it, go make your own sites”? So we did! So many great platforms were created and many continue to thrive. It’s great to see Telegram expanding for exactly that reason, cuz screw them!
When I was on Twitter, I was repeatedly suspended, first time for 12 days for stating: While truth has no fear, censorship is ripe with it. I was also heavily shadowbanned
during my entire stay e.g. 178K impressions in a 28 day period yet during that time I
rarely saw but a few replies on any tweet. Finally, in June of '22 I was permanently suspended
for stating that I had adopted an alternative protocol to the jab. In March of '23 Musk reinstated me only to permanently suspend me 3 months later
NONE of my tweets under Dorsey, Agrawal and Musk were profane, vile, vulgar nor did they threaten or advocate violence.
They spoke TRUTH
Musk's CEO has even confirmed they censor.
As long as you play ball and use it for chatting DM and blasting appropriate, according to
THEM it is fine, but speak TRUTH, is another story entirely
It might be a bastion of free speech but the security protocols on Telegram are extremely poor. I subscribe to 7 channels and comment on them infrequently but I regular get spoof messages from people pretending to be the channel host and using their images. Telegram does nothing to stop this.
Agree. It’s not the best format.
Yes that happens to me and that’s why I’m not on there as much
Thanks VF - will be adding Tucker's channel as well as yours on Telegram. Have become increasingly familiar with it over the past six months or so.
Telegram is a honeypot.
Any corp/org/gov that REQUIRES a mobile number is not an org to which one/anyone should subscribe.
In my experience, shadow banning and other "soft censorship" practices do exist on Telegram, as well as other platforms traditionally equated with conservative viewpoints. Especially when I've found myself "ahead of the curve" in regards to the "timing" of certain disclosures; which ultimately led me to the conclusion that Right, Left, or In-Between; it's pretty much ALL Controlled Narrative.
I no longer participate with any other platform than Substack, which IS consistently a "Bastion of Free Speech".
Originally established in St. Petersburg, Telegram was forced to leave Russia for Dubai due to "IT regulations". The UK, Europe and Singapore were not options either, so Dubai it was. Everyone should know the server locations of the SM apps they support. Especially if it's California or Canada.
Except that Apple and Google somehow have control of the apps and can block you from seeing content and comments in the apps.
I had an Android phone and went to telegram’s website and downloaded their version on my Android phone and that got me around Google’s censorship. Now I have Apple so I tried to do the same thing but telegram’s website won’t load on my stupid phone. I don’t understand how these companies can interfere with what consumers can see or not see. Also, if they have the power to do this with telegram, why are they not doing the same with X?
I did the same when I had an android phone. I switched to iPhone and was still able to download from the telegram website. I think I accessed it from the Brave browser on my iPhone.
Thank you for the suggestion. I'll try Brave and see if that works.
What a load of bullshit
The false dichotomy of left and right is IGNORED COMPLETELY
This page is just another Overton window operation
Pretty sure this is an RFK venture, which is fine if that's what it is, but they should be upfront about it. They should state it's RFK's page and that he's partnering with certain folks, so that none of us are mislead.
You will know them by their actions,out of here myself
LOL!! Why was Timothy Winey banned?? I thought what he wrote was a hilarious comment on the difficulties involved in being an AI chatbot programmer -- and (more pertinently perhaps) the ease with which readers' perceptions can be manipulated by judicious use of language. That is, it's possible to send an entirely erroneous message in such a way that you can't be prosecuted for lying.
Meanwhile, I'd love to subscribe to the Telegram thingeys in question, but my computer is too old to accept the Telegram app. :-(
I would not watch anything he waves about anymore than I do his former employer, Fox
He cared more about his bloody paycheck than he did about the MURDER, MAIMING
and destruction of so many whose livelihoods were destroyed
Some on Fox are still lauding the jab. . . . which speaks highly of the fact that they
are STILL more interested in their bloody paychecks than the TRUTH
And Gab
It was the only choice back when FB, Twitter, YouTube we’re doing this but now there is GETTR, Truth Social along with Telegram.
So he's backtracking again. He got on Twitter because it was supposedly the only free-speech platform available. Some of us knew that Twitter is still not free-speech, and that Telegram is; but somehow Tucker was still in the dark on this? MAYBE his intentions are good, but he's still playing us (like the rest of the white hats), and I don't like to be deceived. What was his real reason for lying about Twitter? I don't trust him.
Endorsing Biden because you see Trump as an existential threat makes no sense. Replacing Biden with a sharp, anti-corruption candidate would be the thing to do in that case. The fact that the DNC won’t replace Biden with RFK Jr. tells us their real fear is an end to their racket.
Bret Weinstein @BretWeinstein
Remember when those of us with “wrong-think” were kicked out of social media like FB, Twitter & YouTube and they said “if you don’t like it, go make your own sites”? So we did! So many great platforms were created and many continue to thrive. It’s great to see Telegram expanding for exactly that reason, cuz screw them!
When I was on Twitter, I was repeatedly suspended, first time for 12 days for stating: While truth has no fear, censorship is ripe with it. I was also heavily shadowbanned
during my entire stay e.g. 178K impressions in a 28 day period yet during that time I
rarely saw but a few replies on any tweet. Finally, in June of '22 I was permanently suspended
for stating that I had adopted an alternative protocol to the jab. In March of '23 Musk reinstated me only to permanently suspend me 3 months later
NONE of my tweets under Dorsey, Agrawal and Musk were profane, vile, vulgar nor did they threaten or advocate violence.
They spoke TRUTH
Musk's CEO has even confirmed they censor.
As long as you play ball and use it for chatting DM and blasting appropriate, according to
THEM it is fine, but speak TRUTH, is another story entirely
Added you 3....